[99s-extend] [erlang-questions] [ANN] erlang.mk build tool

Fri Aug 16 17:10:19 CEST 2013

I know, and if it makes it work where it currently doesn't I'd merge it. 
+But ultimately we want to avoid starting Erlang unless strictly necessary.
+
+On 08/16/2013 05:02 PM, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
+> But it "is only used for fetching the package index file"... :) If the
+> target is up to date there is no starting of Erlang. But on the other
+> hand it could be used conditionally, e.g. use wget on systems on which
+> it is installed and Erlang otherwise. It's just down to creating a
+> properly structured target, isn't?
+>
+> On 16/08/2013 15:44, Loïc Hoguin wrote:
+>> Starting Erlang takes too long. That's a big reason why erlang.mk was
+>> created. :)
+>>
+>> I recall NetBSD being able to download things with a shell script only
+>> (as it comes with nothing installed), this would be a more interesting
+>> solution especially since we can bundle it in the erlang.mk file too.
+>>
+>> On 08/16/2013 04:42 PM, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
+>>> Why not use Erlang for downloading? Surely if erlang.mk is a tool for
+>>> Erlang then it will be very likely installed. For example this target
+>>> downloads Rebar:
+>>>
+>>> # Erlang Rebar downloading, see:
+>>> #
+>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/erlang-programming/U0JJ3SeUv5Y
+>>>
+>>> rb_rebar_url=http://cloud.github.com/downloads/basho/rebar/rebar
+>>> ./rebar:
+>>> $(ERL) -noshell -s inets -s ssl \
+>>> -eval 'httpc:request(get, {"$(rb_rebar_url)", []}, [], [{stream,
+>>> "./rebar"}])' \
+>>> -s init stop
+>>> chmod +x ./rebar
+>>> REBAR=$(shell (type rebar 2>/dev/null || echo ./rebar) | tail -1 | awk
+>>> '{ print $$NF }')
+>>>
+>>>
+>>> It could be used to download anything, not just REBAR.
+>>>
+>>> - Greg
+>>>
+>>>
+>>> On 16/08/2013 15:34, Loïc Hoguin wrote:
+>>>> On 08/16/2013 10:39 AM, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
+>>>>> The big problem with erlang.mk <http://erlang.mk> is requiring to have
+>>>>> gmake and more importantly wget installed imo.
+>>>>
+>>>> wget is only used for fetching the package index file. I'm sure if it
+>>>> doesn't work somewhere it'll be patched eventually.
+>>>>
+>>>>> Which makes it quite annoying to distribute on systems that have
+>>>>> none of
+>>>>> them. It would be interrestin to have the support for curl for
+>>>>> example.
+>>>>> Also what are the makefile extensions that you really need to require
+>>>>> gmake?
+>>>>
+>>>> No idea. Patches are welcome for compatibility with different OS/build
+>>>> tools (as long as it's not "rewrite the whole file" of course, then
+>>>> you're better off just using gmake).
+>>>>
+>>>>> - benoit
+>>>>>
+>>>>>
+>>>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Loïc Hoguin <essen at ninenines.eu
+>>>>> <mailto:essen at ninenines.eu>> wrote:
+>>>>>
+>>>>>     Hello friendly people,
+>>>>>
+>>>>>     I would like to make an official announcement of erlang.mk
+>>>>> <http://erlang.mk> now that all the features I wanted are in.
+>>>>>
+>>>>>     erlang.mk <http://erlang.mk> is a rebar replacement. It was
+>>>>>     initially created for allowing a faster development process than
+>>>>>     rebar and for better compatibility with Linux build tools. It
+>>>>> should
+>>>>>     work on Linux and OSX with GNU Make installed.
+>>>>>
+>>>>>     Projects using erlang.mk <http://erlang.mk> are still compatible
+>>>>>     with rebar. Dependencies fetched by rebar are stored in the same
+>>>>>     deps/ directory, and projects using erlang.mk
+>>>>> <http://erlang.mk> can
+>>>>>     still be used as rebar dependencies, with or without a
+>>>>> rebar.config
+>>>>>     file.
+>>>>>
+>>>>>     erlang.mk <http://erlang.mk> also features a simple package index.
+>>>>>     Try `make pkg-list` to list all packages currently available. All
+>>>>>     the packages listed are compatible with erlang.mk
+>>>>> <http://erlang.mk>
+>>>>>     with no tweaking required.
+>>>>>
+>>>>>     Makefiles written with erlang.mk <http://erlang.mk> are *VERY*
+>>>>>     simple, here are two examples:
+>>>>>
+>>>>>       * https://github.com/extend/__farwest/blob/master/Makefile
+>>>>> <https://github.com/extend/farwest/blob/master/Makefile>
+>>>>>       * https://github.com/extend/__cowboy/blob/master/Makefile
+>>>>> <https://github.com/extend/cowboy/blob/master/Makefile>
+>>>>>
+>>>>>     I wrote about erlang.mk <http://erlang.mk> and relx recently on
+>>>>> the
+>>>>>     Nine Nines blog. erlang.mk <http://erlang.mk> is the perfect
+>>>>>     companion to relx.
+>>>>>
+>>>>>       * http://ninenines.eu/articles/__erlang.mk-and-relx
+>>>>> <http://ninenines.eu/articles/erlang.mk-and-relx>
+>>>>>
+>>>>>     Here are examples of projects that are using and compatible with
+>>>>>     erlang.mk <http://erlang.mk>:
+>>>>>
+>>>>>       * https://github.com/jlouis/__etorrent
+>>>>> <https://github.com/jlouis/etorrent>
+>>>>>       * https://github.com/extend/__cowboy
+>>>>> <https://github.com/extend/cowboy>
+>>>>>       * https://github.com/extend/__farwest
+>>>>> <https://github.com/extend/farwest>
+>>>>>
+>>>>>     You can find erlang.mk <http://erlang.mk> at the following URL:
+>>>>>
+>>>>>       * https://github.com/extend/__erlang.mk
+>>>>> <https://github.com/extend/erlang.mk>
+>>>>>
+>>>>>     Contributions to the package index are of course welcome! The only
+>>>>>     requirement is that the package is to be compatible with erlang.mk
+>>>>> <http://erlang.mk> itself. Just send a PR to the erlang.mk
+>>>>> <http://erlang.mk> project updating the packages.v1.txt!
+>>>>>
+>>>>>     Enjoy!
+>>>>>
+>>>>>     --
+>>>>>     Loïc Hoguin
+>>>>>     Erlang Cowboy
+>>>>>     Nine Nines
+>>>>> http://ninenines.eu
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+>>>>> <http://erlang.org/mailman/listinfo/erlang-questions>
+>>>>>
+>>>>>
+>>>>
+>>>>
+>>>
+>>>
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+Loïc Hoguin
+Erlang Cowboy
+Nine Nines
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