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+ <H1>[99s-extend] timeout in cowboy loop handler</H1>
+ <B>Lo&#239;c Hoguin</B>
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+ TITLE="[99s-extend] timeout in cowboy loop handler">essen at ninenines.eu
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+ <I>Wed Oct 16 06:35:43 CEST 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Loop handlers are designed to wait for a long time with the socket
+*idle* and then eventually send one response then close the socket.
+Things like long-polling.
+
+What you are doing is just streaming, for which you do not need a
+timeout because the socket isn't idle. You are just sending a large
+response, and normal handlers are perfectly capable of doing that.
+
+On 10/16/2013 06:12 AM, akonsu wrote:
+&gt;<i> thanks. one more question if you do not mind. you say that we need
+</I>&gt;<i> timeouts when the client does not notify us when it dies. but then you
+</I>&gt;<i> say that if the client dies then the socket write will fail. to me this
+</I>&gt;<i> sounds like a contradiction. would you please clarify?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (I assume that this is the problem that we are discussing:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/283375/detecting-tcp-client-disconnect,">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/283375/detecting-tcp-client-disconnect,</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> right?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2013/10/16 Lo&#239;c Hoguin &lt;<A HREF="https://lists.ninenines.eu/listinfo/extend">essen at ninenines.eu</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://lists.ninenines.eu/listinfo/extend">essen at ninenines.eu</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 10/16/2013 05:48 AM, akonsu wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. do you mean that there is no way on the server side to tell
+</I>&gt;<i> if the
+</I>&gt;<i> client has disconnected?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are ways, and Cowboy will happily detect them. There's also
+</I>&gt;<i> the problem that a side may be closed without the other side knowing
+</I>&gt;<i> about it, which is why you need timeouts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. if I use a normal handler, I will still run into the same
+</I>&gt;<i> problem, it
+</I>&gt;<i> does not matter which handler I use, from the standpoint of deciding
+</I>&gt;<i> whether the client is still there, right?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the client is gone, the send will fail. Normal handlers are
+</I>&gt;<i> pretty much the same except they don't have a timeout, because your
+</I>&gt;<i> code has an explicit end.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am confused as to how I can implement my streaming and not
+</I>&gt;<i> drop the
+</I>&gt;<i> connection on each client and yet make sure I do close the
+</I>&gt;<i> connections
+</I>&gt;<i> when the clients disconnect...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2013/10/15 Lo&#239;c Hoguin &lt;<A HREF="https://lists.ninenines.eu/listinfo/extend">essen at ninenines.eu</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://lists.ninenines.eu/listinfo/extend">essen at ninenines.eu</A>&gt; &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://lists.ninenines.eu/listinfo/extend">essen at ninenines.eu</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://lists.ninenines.eu/listinfo/extend">essen at ninenines.eu</A>&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Infinite is bad practice, yes. Infinite means some
+</I>&gt;<i> connections will
+</I>&gt;<i> *never* be closed, eating FDs and memory for nothing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure why you want to receive messages, you could
+</I>&gt;<i> just use a
+</I>&gt;<i> normal handler that asks for more data, sends it, ask for
+</I>&gt;<i> more data,
+</I>&gt;<i> sends it, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Lo&#239;c Hoguin
+</I>&gt;<i> Erlang Cowboy
+</I>&gt;<i> Nine Nines
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ninenines.eu">http://ninenines.eu</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--
+Lo&#239;c Hoguin
+Erlang Cowboy
+Nine Nines
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